{"id":6527,"date":"2012-07-11T06:42:54","date_gmt":"2012-07-11T11:42:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lisatener.local\/?p=6527"},"modified":"2024-09-30T09:00:30","modified_gmt":"2024-09-30T13:00:30","slug":"publishing-your-essays-online-an-interview-with-patrick-madden","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/2012\/07\/publishing-your-essays-online-an-interview-with-patrick-madden\/","title":{"rendered":"Publishing Your Essays Online: An Interview with Patrick Madden"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6622\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6622\" style=\"width: 197px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/patrickmadden.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6622\" title=\"patrickmadden\" src=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/patrickmadden.jpg\" alt=\"Patrick Madden\" width=\"197\" height=\"197\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/patrickmadden.jpg 197w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/patrickmadden-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/patrickmadden-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6622\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Essayist Patrick Madden<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Not everyone begins their writing career with a book. In fact, it can really help your book to have established some online readership before the book comes out. The opportunities for writing online and reaching an audience continue to expand. Have you written essays you&#8217;d like to publish online to reach a large audience? Or have you thought of writing essays for online publication?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">I recently attending an inspiring workshop at the URI&#8217;s <strong><a title=\"writing conference\" href=\"http:\/\/www.uri.edu\/summerwriting\/2012\/speakers.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ocean State Summer Writing Conference<\/a><\/strong> with\u00a0<strong>essayist Patrick Madden<\/strong>, author of <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/www.quotidiana.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Quotidiana<\/a><\/strong>, a collection of essays and a website by the same name. Patrick&#8217;s somewhat ADD-style was the jolt I needed to get out of my box and think more creatively. The class sparked a breakthrough in\u00a0 a story for an anthology I&#8217;d been struggling to write previously.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">I asked Patrick to share with my readers some advice on publishing essays online (and offline, too).<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: Where have you published\u00a0 your essays online?<\/span><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Patrick<\/span><\/strong>: My first online essay was in Mississippi Review, which is now called <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/blipmagazine.net\/backissues\/2002\/leilani-madden.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Blip Magazine<\/a><\/strong>. Others have been in <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/brevity.wordpress.com\/2010\/05\/17\/mea-culpa-another-raging-nonfiction-scandal\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Brevity<\/a>, <a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:http:\/\/superstitionreview.asu.edu\/n8\/bio.php?author=patrickmadden&amp;bio=nonfiction\/\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Superstition Review<\/a><\/strong>, and the <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/patrick-madden\/are-essays-viable-in-the_b_518797.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Huffington Post<\/a><\/strong> (the latter being an essay on the viability of essays). One essay that was in the <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thenormalschool.com\/PDFs\/madden_normal_school_fall10.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Normal School<\/a><\/strong> is available from their website. Same thing with pieces in <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thepedestrian.org\/issues\/no1\/4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Pedestrian<\/a><\/strong> and <strong><a title=\"patrick madden essay\" href=\"http:\/\/magazine.byu.edu\/?act=view&amp;a=2390\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BYU Magazine<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">And I&#8217;ve done two essays on eBay (auctioning a real bit of essay memorabilia, having friends write in to &#8220;Ask This Seller a Question,&#8221; and answering those questions in odd ways), though eBay purges old auctions after 90 days, so these are no longer viewable. When I began publishing, there weren&#8217;t many online venues, and most were seen as inferior to print, so my habit has been to submit to print journals. But in the past decade, online journals have come up very quickly in terms of quality and readership, so I&#8217;ve reversed my earlier position and am submitting more often now to online places.<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/URI-OSSWC_2012.jpg\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-6623\" title=\"URI OSSWC_2012\" src=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/URI-OSSWC_2012.jpg\" alt=\"summer writing conference\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/URI-OSSWC_2012.jpg 150w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/URI-OSSWC_2012-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/span><\/a>Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: I loved that e-bay auction essay&#8211;you had the entire audience laughing so hard at the URI Summer Writing Conference when you shared it.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Do you generally write the essay and then figure out where to place it? Or do you often have a specific audience (and platform) in mind?<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Patrick<strong>: <\/strong><\/span>I typically write without considering where I&#8217;ll publish it, but I do try to write for &#8220;the educated lay reader,&#8221; the kind of person who reads literary journals, and probably the kind of person who knows and loves personal essays, maybe has some sense of the tradition going back to Montaigne. And as I&#8217;ve honed my skill, I&#8217;ve also narrowed my focus. I know fairly well which journals might be interested in something I&#8217;ve written and which will never be (because what I&#8217;ve read in them is so different from my style and\/or because they&#8217;ve rejected me several times in the past). So I don&#8217;t waste submissions on places that simply don&#8217;t publish the kind of thing I&#8217;m writing.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: What&#8217;s your advice to authors about where to submit essays? What are some of the best places to consider starting out?<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/41tsYJJlEfL._SL500_AA300_.jpg\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-6624\" title=\"41tsYJJlEfL._SL500_AA300_\" src=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/41tsYJJlEfL._SL500_AA300_.jpg\" alt=\"best american essays\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/41tsYJJlEfL._SL500_AA300_.jpg 300w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/41tsYJJlEfL._SL500_AA300_-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/41tsYJJlEfL._SL500_AA300_-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Patrick<\/span>: I always read the Best American Essays each year, and I look through the list of &#8220;notable essays&#8221; in the back, to get a sense of the journals that they&#8217;re pulled from. I also subscribe to about a dozen journals, and I have my favorite authors, so I track the places they&#8217;re publishing.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">One of my favorite sites, where I do research and where I send my students, is\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newpages.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.newpages.com,<\/a>\u00a0which lists thousands of publications, many of them (probably more than half) online. It can be a bit daunting when you&#8217;re confronted with thousands of journals all at once, but you might do some searches for venues that publish your particular type of thing (say, &#8220;nature writing&#8221;) and then read some of what they have online, so you can decide if they&#8217;d be a good fit.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: Do you advise writers to work with an editor? If so, any advice on choosing someone specifically for essays?<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Patrick<\/span><\/strong>: I&#8217;ve never worked with an editor before submission, though I&#8217;ve worked with editors from particular journals once they&#8217;ve accepted my work. On the other hand, I&#8217;ve always worked with fellow writers to get their feedback on my writing, so I can know how best to revise. So if you don&#8217;t have that kind of group, then perhaps working with a professional editor from the early stages would be beneficial.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: Once published, what do you do to get the word out? Do you do anything specific to elicit comments?<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/facebook_logo.jpg\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-6625\" title=\"facebook_logo\" src=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/facebook_logo.jpg\" alt=\"facebook\" width=\"175\" height=\"66\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/facebook_logo.jpg 175w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/facebook_logo-150x57.jpg 150w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/facebook_logo-100x38.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 175px) 100vw, 175px\" \/><\/span><\/a>Patrick<\/span><\/strong>: I don&#8217;t really do anything special, but I do post information to Facebook, where my friends can see it. This includes a Facebook group for my first book, so that means people who&#8217;ve already expressed interest in my writing. The comments on Facebook tend to be quick &#8220;congratulations,&#8221; so I haven&#8217;t yet figured out a good way to elicit more substantive comments.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: What&#8217;s the process for submitting essays in most cases?<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Patrick<\/span><\/strong>: As I&#8217;ve mentioned, you want to research each journal to know what kind of work they publish. If you like it and think it&#8217;s similar to yours, then look up their editor&#8217;s name and submission guidelines. For online venues, this most often means using some online submission form, which you fill out with your basic contact information and to which you attach a Word document of your piece. Sometimes you might write a brief cover letter, introducing yourself and thanking the editor for reading. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">I recommend against cluttering up your cover letter with any &#8220;teasers&#8221; about the piece you&#8217;re submitting, and stay away from anything that could be construed as bragging. You might mildly praise the journal you&#8217;re submitting to, mentioning that you&#8217;ve liked such-and-such piece by so-and-so. But don&#8217;t overdo that, either. <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">After you&#8217;ve clicked &#8220;submit,&#8221; you sit back and wait, sometimes for several months, and hope for the best. Note that most journals allow simultaneous submissions, so you can send the same piece to several journals and hope one of them will take it. Once it&#8217;s accepted somewhere, remember to withdraw it from all other venues.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: Any other advice for writers who want to submit essays online?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6634\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6634\" style=\"width: 180px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/quotidiana1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6634 \" title=\"quotidiana\" src=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/quotidiana1.jpg\" alt=\"quotidiana essays\" width=\"180\" height=\"279\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/quotidiana1.jpg 180w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/quotidiana1-97x150.jpg 97w, https:\/\/jodieburdette.net\/lisatener\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/quotidiana1-100x155.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 180px) 100vw, 180px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6634\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I&#39;ve been going to bed late because of Patrick Madden&#39;s Quotidiana. I tell myself &quot;I&#39;ll just read a page or two...&quot;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Patrick<\/span><\/strong>: I&#8217;ll just repeat: read widely, so you won&#8217;t be submitting blindly to journals that don&#8217;t fit your work. This will take a lot of time, and if you think of it only as &#8220;research&#8221; so you can publish your work, you may not enjoy it, but if you think of it as enjoying good literature, then you&#8217;ll gain two benefits. <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Note that there are many journals that have come and gone. With the ease of online publishing, lots of people get excited to start a new journal, but their enthusiasm dies off very quickly, and so does their journal. Try to get a sense of the dedication of the editors (has the journal been published for more than two years? Have they published any writers you&#8217;ve heard of? etc.), so you can know whether they&#8217;ll still be around in a year, when they&#8217;d publish your piece. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: small;\">And, finally, don&#8217;t get discouraged with a bit of rejection. Most writers get rejected most of the time. This can be formative, if you take it with the right attitude (humility, undampened optimism). Good luck!<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong>Patrick Madden<\/strong> is the author of <em>Quotidiana<\/em>, finalist for the PEN Center USA award for creative nonfiction and winner of Independent Publisher and ForeWord Reviews book of the year awards. His essays have appeared recently in Fourth Genre, The Iowa Review, The Normal School, and in the Best American Spiritual Writing and Best Creative Nonfiction anthologies. He teaches at Brigham Young University and Vermont College, and curates <a href=\"http:\/\/www.quotidiana.org\">www.quotidiana.org<\/a>, an online anthology of classical essays.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Lisa<\/span><\/strong>: Have any questions for Patrick? Please share them below. And feel free to share your advice on writing essays and share links to your favorite essays here as well.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Not everyone begins their writing career with a book. In fact, it can really help your book to have established some online readership before the book comes out. The opportunities for writing online and reaching an audience continue to expand. 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